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How much would it cost to get a moped?

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Richiboi


I'm 16, live in the UK and want to get a moped. How much would this cost?

So far I've found four main costs

1)The Moped itself
2)Driving lessons/test
3)Helmet and gloves
4)Insurance

Can anyone give me some average prices for these things?



Answer
In the U.K the best price to get yourself a descent moped (50cc) is around £650!

My CBT (Moped Training) took one day from 9am untill 3pm and it cost me £120 but the prices range from roughly £90 to £130... The test is very easy though, provided you do it on a automatic and not a manual!

Helmet will cost you £50 but i dont know anyone who wears motorcycle gloves on a moped cause it looks kind of cheesy, you know wearing a motorcycle costume on a little scooter!

Insurance costs me £28 a month on third party (the cover only the other driver and not you) and fully comp was about £60... The cheapest third party insurance company for me was motorcycles direct.

Also when you buy your bike do a few checks:
>If its liquid cooled, take the cap off the coolant tank and smell it; if it smells like exhaust fumes, the gasket is gone
>Check the frame numbers, on my bike its on the bottom right hand side under the foot rests; and if the frame numbers looks welded in any way and not properly indented in there, the bike is most probably a ringer
>Check the electrics for example the electric start, indicators, lights etc.
>And if the suspension appears to be leaking oil then do not buy unless they are upright forks and u can get the fork seals changed

Trying to decide between a 1972 Norton Commando and a 1969 triumph Trophy?




Dennis Gal


what are the pros and cons between them? Thanks!


Answer
Well done, excellent classic choices.

BUT either will require re-engineering, consider if U are up to it. They will have had numerous previous botching owners, think in terms of a full strip and re-build.

The Norton mark IIA 'bendy' (as you had it in the US) 850cc nominal was the best of the bunch, pre the electric non working start (so, much lighter), the Trumpet '69 pre oil in frame was also the best of the crop, the single carb Trophy was the bees knees and actually went round corners (pre '65's didn't).

Both will kill you if the chassis isn't 100%, both will frustrate you if you don't love 'em.

Spares? You can build both from every nut bolt and washer now from stock, at a price, Norman Hyde (Triumph including racing parts) and Fair Spares or Norvil, all in the UK have every part - websites give details, downloadable parts lists etc. You can actually build either (for $$$$$) from scratch, using retail spares off the shelf. You can buy a new Norton from Fair Spares with modern materials for around $15000 plus shipping. I personally would sooner have Kenny Dyer's prototype and sort it........

I donated a Mk IIA to a chum (as I hate him, three years on he is still trying to re-assemle it) Friend of mine had a '68 TR6 (late relative of the Trophy) and it is worth a lot now, prettiest bike I ever saw, but required experienced blueprinting with modern spares to make it right. Here in UK it is $8000 in 'as seen' condition.

With these bikes, everything depends on previous owner's attitude. Join the owners' clubs, talk to the guys who run them, buy from within the club. Don't forget they are lawn-mower technology stretched to record breaking levels by a dying industry

If the bike is say $ 5000 for a cranky 'going concern', reckon on another at least $6000 for rebuilding it, but it is as stated, entirely possible mail order - everything for both models is now off the shelf, more so than when they were made even, at a price. Forget your man-hours - three winters at least!

Hope you do it, though, another piece of history resurrected.

The Norton is the most comfy long distance, the Trumpet the most style; the rest is up to you.

PS having ridden the Norton in a state of calamity, and having seen the Trumpet in immaculate Dream Machine paint, I would choose the Trumpet as a toy and the Norton to cross continents on, bad as she was, we made a European tour on her, albeit, only just. Be realistic buddy.




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