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Saturday, June 7, 2014

Electric Scooter or a Mountain Bike?

SpaceCowbo

I'm a soon-to-be community college attendee, and I can't decide whether to get a bike or electric scooter for basic transit in the hillish areas of Reno. I loved my bike back home, but it was pretty much destroyed by a reckless friend of mine after I let him borrow it (he's making a speedy recovery). I don't have near enough for a car yet, and my license is invalid since I just moved. I just need something reliable and good for short-medium range transit around town.

Answer
Why is your driver's license invalid? Anyway, you need a driver's license for a motor scooter. And anyway, a mountain bike isn't the best commuter bike, a road bike is. If you're going to be riding gravel trails as well consider a cyclocross bike. If you primarily mountain bike on rocky singletrack a mountain bike can still be a commuter but you'll never be as efficient on roads as you would on a road bike. Of course the bicycle, whichever kind you decide you need, is the most efficient and cheapest form of transportation.

could there be a pedal charge electric Mountain bike Front wheel motor Back wheel generator Seat back Battery?

justbill

maybe your range would be what you want always so long as your not tired or is the pedaling going to be a lot of work You could have bike gears and shift down but that would cut power huh? have they ever tried to make one of these in scooter or mountain bike

Answer
Yes
http://www.greenspeed.us/bionx_motor_bike_kit.htm

Some motors can be used as a generator, and in such a case gererator mode will increase the effort required to pedal the bike. You can also use this added resistance as a mean of braking, this is called regenerative braking where energy used to slow the bike is converted to electricity to recharge the battery. Problem is that these braking periods are a small fraction of the way a bike is driven there would not be much recharging happening. Because of this it would most likely not be worth the expense to have regenerative braking on a bicycle. You would do much better to just recharge the batteries in a more traditional fashion from a power source. If you wanted to be green about it then use a solar panel to recharge an alternate set of batteries and swap battery packs.

Edit:

BTW in the above link you can mount that wheel motor on either the front or rear wheel Rear wheel mounting requires adding afree wheell gear pack. Most installations I have seen add a rear wheel mount motor. I once saw a chain saw engine retro'ed onto a bikes rear wheel via a secondary chain and sprocket.

Where can I buy a bike-powered generator?

Sexy

I'm looking for either one of the following 2 things:

1. A bicycle light that is powered by the wheel but has a battery that kicks in if you're going too slow for the light to be bright.
-OR-
2. A bicycle generator that can store the generated electricity in a battery that can then be used to power a light.

Thanks.

Answer
Generators disappeared from bikes once batteries were commonplace. Now, with LED lights, a couple batteries will last 1500 hours. In any case, here you have a few.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=bike+generator&tag=mh0b-20&index=aps&hvadid=21136447&ref=pd_sl_62ahlq2m8_e

LED strip light installation?

Arif

I wanted to install LED strip lights on my bike and i really dont know what excatly do i need. Can some one please help me with things i need and also if any one can find me a diagram of wiering?

i know i need the following:
1) Strip lights.
2) On/Off switch.
3) Fuse.

Thanks,
I agree on that but looking at my knowledge i think i feel comfortable with having on/off switch rather then with ignition.

do i need anything else from there or no? some one mentioned to me that i would need some converter box orr something like that, can some one help me find on on ebay of what excately it is?.

Thanks,
I agree on that but looking at my knowledge i think i feel comfortable with having on/off switch rather then with ignition.

do i need anything else from there or no? some one mentioned to me that i would need some converter box orr something like that, can some one help me find on on ebay of what excately it is?.

Thanks,
I agree on that but looking at my knowledge i think i feel comfortable with having on/off switch rather then with ignition.

do i need anything else from there or no? some one mentioned to me that i would need some converter box orr something like that, can some one help me find on on ebay of what excately it is?.

Thanks,
I did went to couple of mechanic shops and they are rangeing me from $350 to $500 which is pretty rediciolus, thats why i decided to do it myself. I did alot of research and to be honest it seemes pretty simple and easy to me its just a matter of connecting the LED's with switch and to the battery.

Since i do not know the law for NYC on bike neon lights i think i would want to have that on/off switch so i can turn it on when ever i want and turn it off when ever i need to.

Please throw me any suggestions you have.

Thanks,

Answer
I've installed LED lights on several bikes in the past year. I wire all of mine using a relay to activate the lights whenever the ignition is on, mostly because when you use a switch, and wire direct to the battery, you will eventually leave the power on for the LEDs and could run your battery down!

The LEDs I use are WATERPROOF SMD LEDs, which I purchase in 5-meter rolls or the silicone encased 12" long strips of SMD LEDs. Either work well, and can be purchased from Amazon, eBay, or locally for <$20 for the strip-lights or <$10-for a set of 4 or more of the 12" silicone-encased units.

Place the lights where you want them, under the tank, seat, fenders, etc., wire them to the switch or relay, and you're good to go... really it only takes a few minutes if you know where you want them, and know your way around the bike's electrical system.

As for NYC regulations... check with your local law enforcement or DMV regulations, but I'm pretty sure you are restricted to no flashing lights, blue may be illegal anywhere on the bike, red can only face to the rear, and amber cannot face rear. White should be legal as long as it does not face rear as well.

electric bike advice?

Eddie

hi guys i was curious about a few things and thought, "well i might as well ask", so here i am. lets say you dont finish your battery, are you still supposed to charge it every night? ar am i supposed ot let the battery drain out? and what type of brake should i have, the regular v brake or the disk? ive been told both ways so im not sure which one is better... last but not least, i was told that the company "Gold Model" was very good but not so known, but i was wondering is mabye someone knew if it is good and what are its bad sides? the more information the better:)

thanks
Eddie

Answer
Batteries in an electric assist bike are similar to those in a cell phone. They will last a LOT longer if you drain them down to near zero & then recharge again.

For general purpose riding, disc brakes are NOT needed. Disc brakes are only needed under the most adverse conditions - such as mud, muck & a LOT of rain.

Good electric assist bicycles cost about 2K or more. For that same amount of money, you could buy 3 or more really good "fitness bikes".
http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes-road-fitness-cadent-cadent-2

I wouldn't own an electric assist bike. What happens if the battery should go down miles from home? You are stuck pedaling a VERY heavy bicycle home again. Meanwhile...a fitness bike or even a road bike is very light & geared to climb hills easily.

Electric Bikes?

Q. Hi, for next christmas I was hoping to buy an electric bike.

However I dont know where I could get one from.

If you could please give me some links, advice, whats needed and costs for them I would be most greatful.

Thanks!
thanks alot...

Answer
There is no one "best" ebike for all situations, dont let anyone tell you different. There are many factors to consider, such as: the bicycle frame, your price range, your performance needs, your installation requirements, and after market service needs.

So lets take some well rated ebikes (all of which I have sold and still service) and compare them:

Giant suede-e (no longer sold, a few still available new, still have service and parts) a little low on power for big guys hauling large loads in tough terrain, BUT VERY Reliable and pretty light weight. Un modifiable. Turnkey- no installation issues and no service or parts issue. $1.1k

Cyclone Kit currrently sold on the internet and a few places across the US (Including me in Colorado) GREAT power. Can be a pain to install, so you have to have a specific bike for it to fit, and someone to help with or do the install unless you are pretty darn good with tools. good value, can make slight modifications, parts available, but not much service.

Bionx Kit, 36v more power than than Giant suede-e, lots of nifty hard to find features, Very bicycle-like for a kit, fairly pricy, easy install, parts available, some service. unmodifiable.

EZee bikes and kits, pretty reliable, good parts, some service, can be either a kit or a turnkey bike. moderate performance. a little pricey, but not a lot. minor mods.

Crystalyte. can be anything you want it to be, not real bicyle like. Lots of parts and internet service advise. reasonable price, controller less than the most reliable. You install- easier than a cyclone, harder than a bionx.

If you need the best performance for the money and you can work with tools and pick out your bike, then Cyclone might be best.

For today total turnkey, maybe an EZEE.

Really want to retain the bicyle feel & arent having extremes of demands- try Bionx.

With all ebikes, all connections are the biggest reliability issue, next are throttles then controllers unless stated above.

You will need to look at some discussion groups to get the best lowdown for your situation.

try:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/power...

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/index.p...

a few good shops:

http://www.birdrv.com/electricbike.php

http://electricvehiclesnw.com/

Solar Panel wattage for my Electric Bike?

www.jkrish

I am looking to purchase an Electric Bike for transport to work. I work on an Organic farm and need to save some energy up those hills.

I need help figuring out what size solar panels would be needed to charge the battery, and whether its plausible.

I'm looking at Ebay in Australia as I am immigrating down there. I prefer to afford the foldable/portable solar panel system: 80 watt, 120 watt, 160 watt, but IF necessary a bit more.

300w 3 PHASE 36v ELECTRIC REAR WHEEL
THREE 12v 17ah SLA BATTERIES (Total 36v)

or

Motor: 250 Watt brush-less DC hub
Batteries: 24V/10Ah pack, valve regulated

can anyone out there help explain to me how to figure this out?

thanks :)

Answer
You will want to have some sort of voltage regulation.
If the panel voltage drops off you don't want to discharge the batteries on your bike.
And you would not want to overcharge your batteries.

Harbor Freight has a fold out 18 to 24 vdc solar recharger.(see link)

For a work/home commute you might not want to haul the charger around everyday.
Ask the folks at the farm if you could set up a solar charging station. They might even help.
I'd suggest a bicycle locker that has the panel on top and a couple spaces for bicycles with charging stations inside, out of the elements. Your employers may like the idea.

How is it balancing on a ezip 500 electric scooter?

Sabrina

I am looking for a scooter that doesn't require a license to just ride for recreation primarily and maybe getting to the shops by my house/library if I feel like it. Can anyone tell me how the balance is on one of these, both standing and sitting? I have not tried one yet or any electric scooter for that matter.

Additional info: 5' foot tall female, average weight.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod5000126&pid=CSE_Froogle&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=sku5424125#BVRRWidgetID

Answer
Have not seen the 500 in action (Australia has these odd laws about electric bikes/scooters, nothing over 200w is allowed, anything above this is classed as a motor bike requiring a license and registration)
But we do have the smaller brothers of the 500 and they are quite good and pretty stable.
Looking at the images of the 500 it has it battery pack under the floor pan and sizable pneumatic wheels which all should add to it's ride quality.
It is made by Currie, a company with a long history of making electric bikes and scooters
http://www.ezipusa.com/13-ezip-e-500-.html
As with anything like this, range is dependent on the weight of the rider and the terrain (i.e. hills or the lack of them) the maximum range given for the 500 is 8 miles but that would be on the flat with the lightest possible rider, the real world number is usually less, say 5-6 as an optimistic guess, less if hills are in the equation. But 4-5 miles is still quite a good distance, I would certainly buy one of these if they were allowed here.

i want somthing that will power a light bulb from rotation?

Paul

ok so this is my project i want somthing that i turn and it will make electric which i can plug a light bulb in and it will power up and if i wanted to put a battery there insead to charge a bit like at the science museum if anyone can help me
thanks in advance to all that answer

Answer
A bicycle shop would have a dynamo for that purpose.

Or do you need to build one?

i have a battery powered bicycle.is it possible to have an alternator attached to charge the battery?

ASTELLA3

Answer
yes , there have been generators for bicycles for twenty plus years. It was originally designed to run your head light but it can produce enough pwer to suppliment your battery and even charge it.

Electric Scooter or a Mountain Bike?

SpaceCowbo

I like to know what is your thought on the Prodeco electric bicycle?

ChevalierC

I recently have an interest in mountain bike. I want to get a bike to commute to work on the weekday and use it for mountain biking on the weekend. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

http://www.prodecotech.com/

Answer
Not only are you comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing apples to oranges to bananas!

A "commuter bike" will have no suspension parts. Suspension parts are needed only on off-road trails.

A mountain bike would make for a terrible commuter bike. The suspension parts weigh the bike down & absorb or zap part of your energy with every stroke of the pedals. Nice off-road. Terrible on the streets. The knobby tires also slow you down.

Electric bikes or electric assist bicycles are B-A-D for any situation. #1) The high initial cost. #2) The high replacement cost of a battery. #3) Makes you fat & lazy. #4) What if the charge in the battery runs low or out in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then YOU get stuck pedaling a VERY heavy bicycle home.

Buy a real bicycle from a real bicycle shop. Get fit & stay fit. R.E.I. sells a nice "commuter bike" on their outlet website. Link below. See 2nd link too - How to Choose a Bicycle

Would this be legal on uk roads/paths?

Hey, im wondering if this electric bicycle would be legal on UK's roads and paths?
http://stealthelectricbikesunitedkingdom.com/the-bikes.html
Top speed: 30mph or 50mph depending on which bike

Answer
Both are illegal for use on public roads and paths. An electric bike must be limited to 15 mph under power, although there is nothing to stop you peddling it (or free wheeling down hill) faster if you can. It also can not exceed 200w, the one you have linked to is 750w.
You must also be over 14 years old to ride one.

Yamaha MT-03 and Kawasaki Eliminator 250 - Electric problems?

ChiosNic

My partner is looking to buy either of these two bikes. Living on a Greek island he is concerned whether they have a reputation for problems with the electrics. We have an excellent mechanic nearby for 'nuts and bolts' problems but anything more 'technical' might be difficult.

Hands on experience with either greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
To MT03 BEN

Thanks for all the info. Its not goats we have to worry about in the village, its the wrinklies who are not expecting anything faster than a donkey and just cross the road anywhere!

Answer
Hi
I have an mt-03 great bike load of fun to throw about!
The problem is like most new bikes the MT has an ecu chip which does require a Yamaha dealer with a laptop/software to reset certain things like immoblisers etc.if they go wrong and since they are built in italy they can go wrong!
The engine is bullet proof as it's been around a longtime made by morini of italy.the valves need checking at 8000miles,oil filter needs changing at 600miles and every 4000miles after that or once a year,
also it's fuel injected not carb.
Electrics are simple really no different from any other bike,the odd fuse can go but easy to change.
but the things your partner should really think about is the tyres;
As they are 'road' tyres not meant for any kind of sand/grit or bad surfaces.... u'll slide off when the firstime a goat/donkey comes out of somewhere unexpectedly!
Then there's the warranty (2yrs) you get and "we" mt owners have had problems with the clocks and paint finish on the oiltank at the front/bottom of the bike and if it's not serviced by a yam dealer they can void your warranty (if your buying from new).
any way it's a gr8 bike have a look at the mtownersclub in the uk or if your greek i think they have 1 to.

Friday, June 6, 2014

electric start for dirt bike?

Jacob Wall

is it possible for you to take a bike like a 2001 WR426f and put in electric start without replacing the engine? cheapest way would be nice, have many plans for this bike.

Answer
Not really, I guess you could if you had the money, but that engine was only made with a kick start, and I know why you would like an electric start on that thing, It will start easier with a hot start kit

Can I make my pull start dirt bike a kick or electric start.?

Nancydowns

It is a 196 cc mini baja and im tired of pulling

If so what web site can I get the parts from

Answer
That seems to be a 5-6.5hp Chinese made Honda unlicensed clone engine? Replace it with a Honda Utility engine with a electric start- about $600.00 for the 8 hp Horizontal shaft available at lawn and garden power centers and some motorcycle dealers. Harbor Freight has some $400/500.00 engines about 8-12 hp with electric start also--these are Chinese made sort of Honda, sort of Kawasaki, sort of Briggs knockoffs. They have a 6.5hp mostly Honda copy for about $200.00 that had a note optional electric start for $250.00 same power. Alternative electric starter- get a old Delco or Bosch starter/generator as used on Cub Cadets and Simplicity, AC, Sears Suburbans and make mounting brackets, install belt pulley, get regulator/switch and battery tray, battery and use it.

Thursday, June 5, 2014

Save for first car or go through with electric car build?

Alex King

I cannot decide if I want to wait one more year and get a car, or convert another car to electric like I had planned to do. I am afraid that if my dad and I buy the car for conversion, he will not be as willing to put in as much money for my first real car (we have already decided that he will help pay). Which way should I go?

Answer
What do you want to achieve? How much budget do you have? What sort of driving do you do?

If most of your journeys are long distance, or high speed, then forget electric cars right now: they're not the right power source for the job. If most of your journeys are short and on slower roads, then an electric car is in its ideal environment.

If you are converting a car, you'll probably end up with a car with a range of 40-60 miles and a top speed of 55-60mph (depending, of course, on what budget you have). You will end up with something that is unique, but it will probably be fairly slow.

If most of your driving is in a built up area, then that probably isn't an issue for you. In which case, you can go the self-build route if you want an electric car. If you are using new components, then budget $3-4000 for the conversion, on top of the price of the car: more if you want the latest lithium batteries (between you and me, don't go there: they're troublesome. Stick with lead acid batteries which are a lot easier to implement for a home conversion).

If you want a more practical car, that will have great performance and a decent range, you'll have to go the purchase route. Mitsubishi will have their 'i' electric car out in the US very shortly. I've used one in Europe for a year and it is a very good car. Nissan have their LEAF electric car out now, and again that is a superb car: in Europe, it won 'European Car of the Year' award, as voted by the top automotive journalists across Europe.

I've been driving various different electric cars over the past five years, and before that ran a company selling electric bikes. I am the author of 'The 2011 Electric Car Guide'.

Are there any upgrades for a yamaha ttr. 110 dirt bike?

jacek

It's a 2011 model electric start

Answer
Not a whole lot of after market parts for those, you can get a pipe and some bolt on stuff but it's not a race bike so you are a little limited

Ezip Trailz Electric Bike for exercise?

Wicked Nic

I'm thinking about buying a used one to mountain bike with for exercise. I would only use the motor if I get too tired to pedal back because I'm just breaking into mountain biking and I don't have the best stamina. Do you recommend this?

Answer
"Do you recommend this?"

No. Mountain bikes are fairly heavy on their own. Much heavier than a road bike due to the fact they usually have suspension parts & some have disc brakes. Now add on an electric motor & you've got one heavy mother. The charge in electric bikes is usually short. It always seems to run out of power in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then what? You are stuck pedaling this behemoth back home under your own power. Yep...that'll give you your exercise for the day!

Do you even plan to go off-road at all? If not, look into a quality road bike or performance hybrid or even a straight hybrid. A person usually tires out from cycling by riding around in a gear that is too high. Thus they are "pushing" on the pedals instead of "spinning" at a rate of 70 - 90 rpm. This is called cadence. By using gears that are easier to "spin" rather than "push" you will last much longer on the bike, build stamina, build your heart, tone leg muscles & reduce body fat with a proper diet. Multiple links below. Please see them all.

whats the difference between these types of bikes?

Landon

Mountain Bikes
Comfort & Cruisers
Road Bikes
Electric Bikes
Tandem Bikes

Im looking for a bike that i can just ride to and from school and go around town on which would be best and whats the difference between these bikes?

Answer
Mountain bikes are designed for off road trails. Many people buy mountain bikes & ride them strictly on the streets - dumb. Road bikes are designed for strictly the streets, designed to go fast, but usually not very comfortable. Electric bikes are designed for people that need a little extra help getting uphill. Tandem bikes are a bicycle built for two. Fun, but takes some practice before the 2 riders get into sync.

A cruiser is different than a comfort bike. It usually has but one gear, sometimes 3. Often called beach cruisers because that's where they originated...on the boardwalk of beaches to ride on flat land - not needing any gears.

Comfort & Hybrid bikes are similar. The main difference being a comfort bike usually has the traditional 26" tires. Hybrids have taller & thinner 700C tires that roll easier & go a bit faster. Hybrid bikes have become very popular because they are versatile. You sit in a comfortable upright position, have many gears to handle hills, yet can go slightly off road on trails of packed earth or finely crushed gravel/stone. With a hybrid, you're basically getting a combination of a road bike, a mountain bike & a comfort bike. The best of all three. That's what I ride & recommend for most people looking for an all around good bike.

Has the "BP"(ARCO) oil spill made the 2012 destruction of planet Earth a reality?

guitarohol

Is it possible the global corporate community is hiding the devastating truth?
Will the destroyed eco systems cause all of the others to fail?
How many new jobs will be created to get the cleanup done?
Where is the public outrage?
Would a boycott of ARCO gas stations wake up British Petroleum?
Wow! Impressive answers. Seriously, I appreciate all of the answers because they tell me good people are concerned. I award thumbs up to all answers and will choose the best one... Thanks again.

Answer
No, the "BP"(ARCO) oil spill has not made the 2012 destruction of planet Earth a reality.

When someone says, âI want to boycott BP,â the person you wind up hurting is the guy who lives in the community, buys the pages in the high school year book, and the cookies from the girl scouts.

What I think they ought to do instead isâ¦start walking.

In other words, boycotting certain gas stations only stands to harm individual gas station owners, not the larger company. Thatâs because individual stations that have the BP logo on them may or may not buy from a BP gas distributor. More importantly, stations that donât have the BP logo are just as likely to buy from a BP distributor. A host of liberal media outlets, from the New York Times to Time magazine, have pointed out the futility of a boycott.

the only way to really ensure environmental safety is to boycott oil entirely.

But it doesn't even end there. So you buy a plug-in electric car. But that energy you're charging it with could come from a power plant burning natural gas. And, oh wait -- according to BP's website: http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=3050046&contentId=3050873

Today, natural gas makes up more than half of BP's energy production, making us the largest producer and supplier in the U.S. In fact, the metro busses here in DC run on natural gas, so perhaps public transportation is out of the question as well. That leaves your bicycle and feet. An inconvenient truth, indeed.

In the real world, no matter how careful you are, accidents happen. There's always the possibility of human error, and sometimes even machines and computers malfunction. So long as an ecological disaster is possible, no matter how improbable, you have to be comfortable with the fact that it could happen.

That's not to say that BP (and probably others) shouldn't have done a better job in identifying more effective disaster containment. It just means that if we want to live in a world where we consume energy and resources in the way we do, we must accept the possibility that, from time to time, things go very badly. We certainly don't have to like it, but we can't pretend that boycotting one company will change very much. o_O

Should I get a moped?

awakenmust

Hi, i'm 16 and I really wish I could transport myself places that are further than walking distance, aka not 3 hours away on foot.

I really want a motorcycle but I can't wear the gear everywhere I go. Helmet & leather jacket i'm fine with as I already wear a leather jacket all the time and there's a super cool iron maiden helmet I want but I can't wear leather pants and boots everytime I want to go somewhere. I found a moped that looks exactly like a motorcycle and it seemed perfect but I don't know if it will work.

The issue with a moped (tomos streetmate) is the DMV website for california says I can only go 20 mph which is too slow. I don't understand why I can't go 30mph, I don't plan on riding it in front of cars as you would with a motorcycle i'd just ride it in bikelanes or whatever route is bike safe according to google maps. The tomos streetmate looks more like a motorcycle than a moped so perhaps I could get away with riding it 30mph but motorcycles aren't even allowed on bike lanes I think.

I can already drive a car really well but I don't have my lisence and I can't afford a car and i'm super picky when choosing one (I loooove 80's cars but you know it's well not the 80's it's 2012 so finding one wouldn't be easy)

Answer
I think you might be confused. The Streetmate goes 30mph and is classed as a moped (406a) and you need an M1 or M2 license. The electric motorized bicycle (406b) can only go up to 20mph, and you do not need a license. By the way, you don't have to wear leather pants and boots. Just not shorts and flip-flops. If you ride NEAR the bike lane, (allowing cars room to pass) you can ride safely on a small bike without causing too much of a clog. Clogs are dangerous as cars will be jerks to get ahead.

From the DMV website...

A "motorized bicycle" or "moped" is:

A two or three-wheeled device, capable of no more than 30 mph on level ground, and equipped with:

â Fully operative pedals for human propulsion.
â A motor producing less than two gross brake horsepower and an automatic transmission.
â An electric motor, with or without pedals for human propulsion. (CVC Â§406(a))

Driver must have a motorcycle license (M1 or M2).

A âmotorized bicycleâ is also defined as a vehicle with pedals and an electric motor (not more than 1,000 watts) which cannot be driven at speeds of more than 20 mph on level ground even if assisted by human power. (CVC Â§406(b)).

If you operate a motorized bicycle which meets the definition of CVC Â§406(b), you:

â Must be 16 years of age or older.
â Must wear a properly fitted and fastened bicycle helmet.
â Are exempt from the motor vehicle financial responsibility, driver license, and moped plate requirements (CVC Â§12804.9).

what is the best foldable bike to travel with?

conservati

Looking for a full component, REAL bike - not a small wheeled toy.

Answer
Here are some real folding bikes;

http://www.birdrv.com/electricbike.php

(ignore the electric assist)

but it kind of depends on how you travel; its hard to travel with 26" wheeled folding bikes without paying real high excess baggage charges.

Brompton review http://www.foldabikes.com
A Considered Opinion:

"---- The fact is - and we might as well get this over with - the Brompton is more or less unassailable in terms of practicality, ride and foldability. We've never seen a bike come close: a few 20-inch big wheelers are faster (not all though), a handful of machines have a rudimentary luggage carrying system, and some fold quite well, but the Brompton scores 8/10 in all these areas, so it can't be beaten. Not yet, anyway."

bike Friday:
http://www.bikefriday.com/BicycleCatalog

A nice listing with lots of bikes
http://www.foldingbikes.co.uk/folding_bikes.htm

full sized?
http://www.armybikes.com/

and of course:
http://www.hummerbikes.com/

I like Giatex for good ride-ability but still folds down easily at a decent price.

What are some effective but easy ways people can save energy?

ksenia

Answer
Monitor your electricity use by buying a Kill-A-Watt or other such monitor.

http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_watt_electric_usage_monitor_review

'An average household uses about 4300kWh of electricity each year. This results in emissions of over 2 tonnes of CO2 per household, or Â¾ tonne per person - just for domestic electricity supply. In comparison, total CO2 emissions per person in the UK are around 10 tonnes, and emissions per person in India are about 1 tonne. Luckily, it is possible to cut domestic electricity use in half with simple energy efficiency measures.
'This table shows how electricity use is divided up in an average house (excluding electric heating):

Lighting 19%
Cold Appliances 18%
Wet Appliancs 15%
Cooking 15%
Consumer Electronics 19%
ICT (computers, etc) 9%
Other 5%'
(source Centre for Alternative Technology)
http://www.cat.org.uk/information/catinfo.tmpl?command=search&db=catinfo.db&eqSKUdatarq=InfoSheet_SavingElectricity

EASY WAYS to save energy

â Don't use standby on tv or computer.
â Switch off when not in use.
â Use energy efficient lightbulbs.
â Lower you thermostat.
â Install timers.
â Heat only what is needed.
â Turn down the water heater.
â Insulate your property.
â Turn air conditioning and heating down
â Sign up to a green energy supplier.
â Dress appropriately. When itâs cold put on a jumper rather than turn up the heating, when itâs warm take it off again rather than use the air con.
â Wash full loads.
â Wash at lower temperatures.
â Dry washing outside.
â Avoid dishwashers.
â Reduce draughts.

Use rechargeable batteries..
â Donât leave (re)chargers on for longer than is needed
â Only boil the water you need.
â Buy local produce.
â Reduce reuse and recycle - in that order
â Work from home. If possible work from home, it saves time and fuel travelling.
â Eat less meat and dairy products. Modern farming methods produce large quantities of greenhouse gases.
â Shower instead of bath.
â Conserve Water The less water you use the less energy is needed to pump it to your home or office and to deal with the waste at a sewerage treatment works.

â Drive a fuel efficient vehicle, if you have more than one vehicle use the most economical one more often.
â Walk or cycle to work or when taking the kids to schools, if you have to drive consider car sharing.
â Use public transport where possible
â Take a coach or train instead of using domestic flights.
â When replacing your vehicle look at diesel and liquid petroleum gas models.
â Combine multiple journeys into one and do your weekly shopping in a single trip.
â Stagger journeys where possible to avoid rush hour traffic and hold ups.
â Avoid harsh braking, accelerate gently, drive at a steady speed.
â Keep tyres properly inflated.
â Remove bike and ski and roof racks when not in use.
â Carrying unnecessary weight wastes fuel, declutter your vehicle.
â Use the correct gear, use cruise control if your vehicle has it.
â Keep your vehicle regularly serviced.
â Turn the engine off when stopped or waiting.

Source Trevor a climatologist , who used to be Top Answerer in Global Warming.

Is an electric scooter with under 50cc in California considered a moped or a bike?

Speranza

Hi, I am choosing to sell my car that is 400 dollars every couple of weeks for repairs.
I want to have a moped instead, and I do not intend to go at a high speed or travel far. I solely want to use one to commute to college, which is 3 miles from my house.

I was wondering if I'd register the following as bikes or mopeds at the DMV because some come with pedals...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120889044022+
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ZEV-3600-SE-Electric-Motorcycle-Scooter-Motorbike-Ebike-Lithium-USA-VIN-/150790632800?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item231bd27560

Answer
What *IS* a "moped" -- http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=veh
---quote---
406. (a) A "motorized bicycle" or "moped" is any two-wheeled or three-wheeled device having fully operative pedals for propulsion by human power, or having no pedals if powered solely by electrical
energy, and an automatic transmission and a motor which produces less than 2 gross brake horsepower and is capable of propelling the device at a maximum speed of not more than 30 miles per hour on level ground.
---end quote ---
The first vehicle has a 500 watt motor, it is legally a "moped." Problem -- http://taotao.us/index.cfm/electric-vehicles/ate-501/ -- it is only capable of 20 mph. You can ride a pedal bicycle faster. To ride legally you need to have a Class-M2 (or Class M1) endorsement on your driver's license. You must have to take and pass the CMSP Basic Ridercourse class.

The second vehicle can hit 50 mph. It is *NOT* a "moped." It is a motorcycle, same as my 652cc cruiser. To ride legally you need to have a Class-M1 endorsement on your driver's license. You must have to take and pass the CMSP Basic Ridercourse class.

The requirements for an M2 license are *exactly* for an M1 license. You can a Moped (M2), or a Moped or motorcycle (M1) license. Since it takes the *same* to get an M2 license, you might as well get the M1.

The BAD: Either is Cheap Chinese Crap. Neither is reliable. Neither has parts. Neither have a dealer for service. Buy one and in less than 6 months you will likely have to toss into the trash and buy another.

The GOOD: You can click on Craigslist and find a used 50cc Japanese scooter for under $1000 -- with a dealer nearby that will service and have parts available.

Could a person under 16 operate a motorized vehicle on a roadway or sidewalk?

Culley

my son is 14 going on 15 and I was wondering if it was legal for him to operate one of the following vehicles on the road or sidewalk:
- Go cart
- Moped (less than 50cc)
- Motorbike (less than 50cc)
- electric motorbike
- A bike converted to run off a chainsaw engine

Just for reference we live in Loudon County, Va. in a suburban bordering on rural area. Also if you know any other street or sidewalk legal vehicles he could operate, could you suggest them? I have a price limit of around $1000, but willing to spring for something if you recommend it. Thanks!!

Answer
Motor vehicle laws are local and this forum is National with international visitors. Your best source of information will be you state DMV which may have some FAQ you could check on a website like this one: http://www.dmv.state.va.us/drivers/#teen.asp

You also might look for your specific question relative to your state

Go carts seem to be available for off road use: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090707204036AAnwhK5 contact those in business for the relative regulations

Mopeds in Va: http://www.scootrichmond.com/shopping-tools/virginia-moped-and-motorcycle-laws

motorized bicycles at less than 49cc would come under the moped exemptions/restrictions: http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?36692-Motorized-bikes-in-Virginia

Electric bikes seems to also fall under moped rules: http://www.electricvehiclemall.com/pdf/Virginia_E-Bike_Law.pdf

The fatal exclusion is that your son must be 16.

Are electric motorcycles cool?

BobbleColo

So, I am shopping for my first motorcycle. I was looking at a few bikes. A Ducati Monster 696, a Ninja 600, and a 2013 Zero S (not 2012). The 2013 Zeros have different motors and batteries that give it near 600cc equivalent performance and a 130+ mile range at a top speed of 95MPH. I am a huge EV enthusiast and I currently drive an all-electric car. I'd love an EV motorcycle like the Zero S, but there is one very important factor to consider... the "cool" factor. Do you think EV bikes like the 2013 Zero S are as cool as those other petrol bikes? Or, would the ladies be more inclined to hop on the back of a noisy ICE bike?

Answer
You have an all-electric car -- you are already totally un-cool. Nothing could make you cool so you might as well get a Zero.

Are electric motorcycles cool?

BobbleColo

Answer
Bike guys love all bikes. I don't know anybody who thinks they're uncool.

They can never be what a gas bike is, but what they are is actually better and that will come to be understood as more people get to ride them.

The instant throttle response and hard acceleration give you the thrill of speed for carving up the canyon roads. But the 95 mph top speed means don't try racing a gas sport bike unless it's a drag race.

It will not make a lot of noise so if that's what you're into have a stereo system with a sub woofer installed.

What are disadvantages and advantages for electric cars, & solar energy cars?

mskee0409

Answer
first why do you need sound the world is too noisy anyways. when I'm riding my bike I check the mirror every 20 seconds so why can't everyone else. second probably 75% of the population drives less than 50 miles a day in their commute so an all electric is perfect for them. A pulse charger can charge a lithium ion battery in 20 minutes, and there not that expensive if you know where to look. I bought a container of 200 LI's 300AH 24v from Hihon corp in china a few months back for 10k including shipping about $50 a piece. I finished converting a 85 dodge Omni for the wife. I just started an 86 Fiero for me, next will be something for my son, daughter, and son-in-law, and I'll still have enough to do another 20 cars plus replacement batteries. and as already stated solar is fine for a house supplemental system, I have 10kw on the south roof of my house as well as 4 vertical axis wind turbines on my garage roof. but neither will work on a car. Electrics are small and light, they can't be large trucks but bio diesel is renewable and relatively clean especially if they make up a small percentage of the vehicles on the road.
I'm keeping my gas and diesel cars and trucks I just won't drive them around town when an electric will do.

Power Assist Bikes?

LAL

I am 60 years old, just finished chemo and do not have alot of energy left. I was thinking of getting a power assist bike so I could get some exercise because the bike I have takes more energy then I have. I need a simple bike that will allow me to pedal, but will also assist. I have read alittle bit and probably the electric would be better then gas, for the speed and noise. But any assistance will be appreiated. Thank you.

Answer
There are two ways to go: A purpose built electric/pedal bike or trike or an add-on kit to a regular bike.

Electric is much more useful than gas, since electric assist bikes can still be used on trails (gas, even mopeds are almost always prohibited). Plus they are quieter, lighter, less smelly and, most importantly, more bike-like.

Consider a trike too, especially a recumbent. They are much more comfortable and easy on the butt. More stable (they can't fall over), you can carry a lot more (basket in the back) so they are more useful for errands and they can stop on a dime. The big penalty has always been the extra weight, but if you are planning from the start to use a motor assist, then weight isn't that big a concern is it?

Good luck. Biking is the best exercise in the world!

Wednesday, June 4, 2014

I am looking to buy a foldable e-bike?

Matthew

I would like to be able to take it as one of my bags on the plane, so it would have to be less than 50 pounds or so. Also I remembers seeing one for 800 dollars, but now I can't find it, and the only foldable e-bike for less than 50 pounds was 1600 dollars.

Can anyone help me? Thanks

Answer
put an electric kit on a folder?

http://www.birdrv.com/electricbike.php

premade?
http://www.electricvehiclesnw.com/main/ezeebike.htm#e-quando

manual folder:

http://www.electricvehiclesnw.com/fbw/brompton.htm

they also have some Dahon's so call Bird and EV's NW.

You will want NIMH batteries as SLA is too heavy and big Lithium's are not allowed on flights.

Solar Panel wattage for my Electric Bike?

www.jkrish

Solar Panel wattage for my Electric Bike?
I am looking to purchase an Electric Bike for transport to work. I work on an Organic farm and need to save some energy up those hills.

I need help figuring out what size solar panels would be needed to charge the battery, and whether its plausible.

I'm looking at Ebay in Australia as I am immigrating down there. I prefer to afford the foldable/portable solar panel system: 80 watt, 120 watt, 160 watt, but IF necessary a bit more.

300w 3 PHASE 36v ELECTRIC REAR WHEEL
THREE 12v 17ah SLA BATTERIES (Total 36v)

or

Motor: 250 Watt brush-less DC hub
Batteries: 24V/10Ah pack, valve regulated

can anyone out there help explain to me how to figure this out?

thanks :)

Answer
http://handybobsolar.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/solar-power-that-works/

google " northern tool " i am sure they sell world wide.

they have solar kits ,

they sell are a decades old industrial supply company that sell all things at cheap prices.

What is the cheapest DIY Electric Bike kit? Anyone have experience?

DJ C

Please let me know how it is. Is it fun? Were you disappointed?

Answer
I have tried about 15 different ebikes and kits.

By far, the cheapest ones were the worst. those friction drive ones with rollers on the wheels. When you really need the help climbing a hill, they slip.

so skip those.

there are two fairly decent entry level kits... the WE BD36 and the Largo Go hub kit.

I prefer the Go hub at that price point. Have had happy customers with both.

I ride a Cyclone and a Bionx. Long range, good top speed and great hill climbing in one package.

I live on a hill and need transportation to school/ Electric Scooter?

Joe M

I live on a hill and its is very difficult to come home. I can't drive and there are no bus or train stops near me. Biking isn't an option because coming home is the worst. Do you need a license to drive an electric scooter? Do need a helmet as well? How do they do on hills? How heavy are they? I was thinking about an electric or kick scooter. If I get a kick scooter I can carry it home because it only weighs 5 pounds. Please help me pick or suggest something new, by experience only please.

Answer
I've never owned an electric scooter, but I think it would be way too weak for your hill. Right now I ride a 70cc Honda scooter, and even that's a little weak for hill climbing. It'll get up the hill I have to climb, but everyone else is doing the speed limit, 45, while I'm doing 35 or 40. You might be lighter and more aerodynamic than me, but you should go with 100cc or more. And buy a Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki if you can afford it. Stay away from the Chinese garbage.

Electric Scooter or a Mountain Bike?

SpaceCowbo

I like to know what is your thought on the Prodeco electric bicycle?

ChevalierC

Should I get a moped?

awakenmust

a barrel of oil is better cheap or expensive for the economy?

katie

i dnt get it either but in this article for school and it says a barrel of oil will prob cost 300 by 2012 so is that goo dor bad?

Answer
in all of human history p to about 1850 the only way to build or do anything was with human muscle power. that is why there were slaves and workers paid almost nothing by the rich and powerful

machines using fuel, wood or coal or oil for steam, gas motors or electric generators can do much much more. a human muscle work is worth only about $0.50 a Day, less than the cost of the food to feed him

when oil was discovered in american in the 1890s it was so plentiful it cost less than a few dollars a barrel. gasoline was a waste product while making kerosene for lamps

only cheap clean energy produces real wealth meaning stuff. money is just paper to keep score.

in 1970s the america reached "peak oil"we used our won FASTER than we drilled and found new oil so we bought oil from the arabs. they stopped selling it and it almost collapsed the American economy. One of the reasons we had WW II was because America supplied japan with oil and when they attacked China we stopped their oil. they had 6 months to a year at most, to attack us, win the war, attack southeast asia And get oil there. otherwise they would have starved and gone back to planting rice with water buffalo

Today there is a huge and growing demand for oil. all our mid east wars are really about controlling oil.

oil at $75 a barrel we can afford. at $100 it slows our economy. $300 a barrel we would be in a great depression. but we would have an all out war in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq or where ever the oil was found

WE HAVE TO STOP USING OIL. there is no other choice. except coal and coal is VERY dirty and dangerous.

The sun is the natural source of almost all energy on earth. it is just expensive to make solar electric systems. and we have stupidly let China manufacture them all. Our company just went out of business due to costs and cheap Chinese products.

at $300 a barrel oil you will ride bicycle and have to grow your own food in your back yard, or starve. Farmers need oil for all their machines, fertilizer and for trucking the food hundreds of miles to the cities.

Pay attention to this news it is VERY important to YOUR future.

2012 is much too soon but 20 50 maybe?

Best electric scooter for a 14 year old?

Kourtney

Hi I'm 14 turning 15 soon and I want and electric scooter that goes at least over 15 mph (10 if the battery last) I don't weigh that much and I'm a girl i don't if that matters or not

Answer
Depends on what you call an "electric scooter" and where in the world you are.

In California an "electric scooter" would be a "motorized scooter", such as a Go-Ped - http://www.goped.com/Products/Iped-ii/default.asp. It will be legal on the streets, but you are required to have a driver's license or permit. As far as I know, it would be illegal in New York City.

"Best electric scooter" would be actually *NONE*. If you want transportation a *far* better vehicle would be a pedal bicycle. If you want motorized, get a small motorcycle such as a Honda Metropolitan.

Are there any electric vehicles that don't require a driver's license?

wayfarer4

My mother, who is legally blind, wants a vehicle that she can drive, but that doesn't qualify as an automobile. She also won't consider garden tractors, golf carts or something similar. We've seen several electric cars out, but they all qualify as automobiles. Any ideas?

Answer
Try a mobility scooter
http://www.mobility-direct.co.uk/mobilityscooters.html

Most places in the world they need to be registered, but is a concessional registration (virtually free). There is no licence required.

Depending on the degree of visual impairment, another option could be a motorised bicycle or trike.(upright or recumbent.) Examples here
http://www.electric-bikes.com/trikes/trikes.html#TerraTrike

These are capable of quite high speeds (particularly recumbents) , but can be ridden slowly, within her limits.

Commonly an electric motor and a speed restriction are required to ensure they are considered the same as a bicycle. You will need to check your traffic act to see what restrictions apply to you.

Tuesday, June 3, 2014

Power Assist Bikes?

LAL

upgrading an electric scooter any advice?

darkstar11

I drive a 500 watt TaoTao ATE 501 and it only has a top speed of 20 to 21 miles per hour and only drives 10 miles per charge(I think) Is there any upgrade parts I can get for this scooter so that it can drive 30 maybe 35 miles per hour and get better battery life? I'm tired of being on a street legal scooter/moped and not being able to keep up with average city traffic flow. I hate being tailgated because I'm driving slower. I think it runs on 48 volt batteries and uses three of them. Not sure about the control box because its kinda hard to get to.

Answer
First you have to realize that those 500 watt electric scooters are really just heavy cheap electric assisted bikes. The TaoTao ATE 501 weighs about 200 lbs and that's why it's so slow. If you want any reasonable performance, you use the fold out pedals at least for acceleration, it also recharges the batteries slightly.

I suspect you have a 36 volt system with three 12 v lead acid batteries wired in series. It would be a good idea to have each of those batteries checked out separately. Lead acid batteries can be tricky and it only takes one to be in poor shape for the whole bike to suffer.

The most obvious upgrade you could do is wire in another three lead acid batteries in parallel. Nothing else would need changing but you would have to find a location to put the batteries.

The next possible upgrade is to replace the batteries with expensive lithium ion or lithium polymer batteries which are convenient because they are available in similar voltage levels. Their charging procedures are similar but not identical so you may be able to get away with not changing any of the charging mechanisms. The biggest problem with this is the cost.

A larger motor probably won't do you much good and may require custom fabrication of the motor mounts but you may be able to find a more powerful motor in the same form factor. In general, most electric motors can be operated at higher voltages with the only consequence being overheating of the motor and wires, the wires can be increased to thicker wires and you could try to get more cooling to the motor but this would really only allow you to have short bursts with the possibility of burning something out. Of course doing so means changing the battery layout and adding more batteries.

The best solution would be to upgrade to a proper light weight electric assisted bike but they run about $2,000 or more, roughly double what the scooters cost. Maybe find a used bike and put in a 500 watt conversion kit... At least with the bikes, everyone expects you to be slow.

The 500 watt scooters are not what I would call street legal, just exempt from regulations. It takes a 150 cc scooter to be freeway legal and a 250 cc scooter to actually be safe at freeway speeds and any scooter with more than 50 cc's must be licensed and registered as a motor vehicle. Those I would call street legal once licensed. You might be better off with a 50 cc gasoline scooter, those are usually exempt from regulation too. The old smoky two cylinder ones had a lot of power, about double what the new four cylinder ones have but even the new 4 cylinder ones would be four times the power of the 500 watt electric scooter. If you want to be environmentally friendly, make ethanol from rotten fruits that you get from the grocers for free.

Questions about electric bike?

Hi, I just got this electric bike second hand on craigslist - and it's working fine, but I have a few questions about it.

1. Do you remove batteries when you have the bike on the public bike rack to prevent theft? Or do you think that the lock mechanism is good enough to deter the theft? Of course I put U-shape lock on the bike body itself, but I wasn't sure what to do with the battery. It's removable, so for today, (first time out), I removed the battery and brought it with me to the office.

2. how long does this battery last? The previous owner told me she used the bike for two years. How do you know the battery is no good any more? She used it to climb up a hill (gradual, a short steep part, but not so terrible) daily about 1.5 miles. When should I consider getting new battery pack (and how much does it cost?)

3. Is there way to adjust the positioning of the switch to turn the power on because it's in a little awkward place to reach as of right now. (I like to turn it on and off to save battery as I climb up the hill).

Thanks!
to the first responder: I live in upstate NY and the town is full of hills. I dare you to climb the two large hills I just went down and climbed this morning. I'm a middle aged woman with shaky knees and I'm not going to put up with your nonsense. Perhaps you should think about what you say before you post it - and save some embarrassment. You won't dare say that to me in person.

to the second person: I want to turn it on and off because, if you've ever rode bike on a long hill, the incline is not even. Some parts are almost level, and I don't need the assist, but some other parts are steep, then I need assist.
And please only answer if you actually know anything about electric bike.
Also, this is the bike I got: http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/twist.express/7335/44074/ I forgot to add this link in the initial post.

Answer
I would remove the battery. The battery life is determined by the type and the number of recharge cycles. If you turn it off to climb hills why bother with an electric bike. There is a good chance that you already need a new battery. The cost will depend on the type, Google is your friend.

Edit:
You replied without giving any more information about the bike. Most have a Controller that determines how much energy you use.

http://www.nycewheels.com/giant-part-twist-battery.html

Read this.

http://www.cyclepathbikes.com/giant/howitworks.html

Questions about electric bikes?

Robert Ful

1.) How long do they last before "burning out"
2.) How many miles can you typically travel on one without having to pedal?
3.) When going up a steep hill, is the bike powerful enough to move upward without having to pedal at all?

Answer
We will just use my Giant Lafree Lite as a sample"

1)How long do they last before "burning out"?
I am 230 lbs,and have ridden this bike 4K miles over 3 years and NO problems other than flat tires.

2.) How many miles can you typically travel on one without having to pedal? I have to pedal on this bike. I can go 30miles on this ebike designed in 2002 and costing $1300.

3.) When going up a steep hill, is the bike powerful enough to move upward without having to pedal at all?
Again, this ebike requires me to pedal, as you should on most ebikes. I have arthritis and asthma, but I can make it up a 7% hill at 7mph carrying 20lbs of groceries

What do you think of a new law: high gas tax with $ set aside for alternative fuel development?

jane doe

I have to do a speech on public policy. I'm not sure if this is already enacted in many places. I don't even drive. Gasoline is taxed, right? But taxes would be increased, which would probably mean people would look for more fuel efficient automobiles (quit driving Hummers). A large portion of the money from the tax would be earmarked for developing and eventually implementing alternative fuels (perhaps the one with the algae). This would be better for everyone because oil won't be available forever at the rate it's used, oil causes wars, it's bad for the environment... people will probably use public transportation more.

Answer
Algae could be the answer, or electric, or hydrogen or hydrogen electric [fuel cell]. You could suggest that engine size & fuel efficiency would be taxed on new cars. It happens here in the UK. A little car pays no tax, a big Range Rover pays over $500 a year. The money isn't really directed into anything [ringfenced] but that's just the way it works, although public transport in rural areas is subsidised. Taxing new cars means those with the money can afford to pay. People with old classics or who can't afford a new car won't have to pay [in the UK pre 1974 cars pay no tax].
The love affair with oil is coming to an end we or rather you [the next generation] need to come up with a better solution.
good luck with your debate

additional: tax on fuel/cars varies from country to country to give you an idea the uk version runs like this. Tax [duty on fuel] it used to be 50% of the cost but as oil prices have gone through the roof it has become less and now is less than 30%. Farmers and fishermen pay no duty [airlines pay nothing too] but oil price is the real cost. The other tax is the yearly road tax, a little mini or small diesel pay $50 a big gas guzzler pays $500. Cars built before 2000 pay either $100 for small cars $200 for bigger. Electric hybrid and gas [lpg] pay nothing. Sales tax of 20% is added to all fuel except heating.

Public transport is for losers! apparently 75% of New Yorkers don't own a car [8% of the rest of the US]. I don't think NYers are losers. I mix up my transport, bike to keep fit, SUV for work, train for long journeys.

with 250 million cars there is potential with just a $4 a year tax to pump $ billion into research. Who would resent saving the planet for the price of a cup of starbucks.

A small tax on new cars would be equal $x 5 million each year and if that tax was annual then it would add to the fund.

The funny thing is that some here feel a greenhouse tax should be on fuel not annual tax, it means you could own a hummer and only use it a few weekends a year. A lot of old cars in the US are classics that are loved and only come out for the odd weekend so it would be unfair to tax them and tax the fuel instead.

Incidentally you don't need a algae engine developed the fuel is the same as bio diesel.

250 million cars, you really love your cars!

Want To Predict Future Motorcycle Inventions?!?

Candid Chr

Been riding for a long time, seen a lot of changes that 50 years ago would have been deemed close to science fiction but here they are in most mainstream use, like computer activated fuel management and now Polaris has come out with an airless tire that is actually usable without being beat to death by rock-hard rubber.
So, what do you see in the future?
What would you like to see in the future?
I'd love to live and ride long enough to see a solar-powered electric bike that had around 90 BHP and weighed in at a whooping 200 lbs. High-output gel batteries ('solar' rechargeable even by starlight) and fully carbon-fiber, ceramic motor (or whatever may be better material in the future).
The list goes on.
Help me out here, I want to keep dreaming!!!!
And no flying motorcycles, they're like Flying Monkeys, just more sh!t falling out of the sky.
@ fuzzy- Like the HUD bike alert idea or a law that allows riders to mount 'vaporizers' to make cars 'disappear, LOL.
@ curmudgeon- You're full of it, but in a good way! But dreaming with coffee?!? Stand back folks, we'll need a geiger counter. LOL!
@ ninebad- Asked for no Flying Monkeys, the 'air' I get on my dirt-bike is high enough, thank you!
@ Jason- You're too young to have grown up on B

Answer
The future of motorcycles depends some on laws, some on technology. Look at current car and truck engines, compare to 2 years back- then figure the current motorcycles on road will get some of same features and the expensive ones already have them- ABS, fuel injection, cats, variable valve timing. At the same time the emerging markets want simplicity and reliability, maintainability- India has some of latest Honda technology in some of their cycles--while at same time the Baja Chetek is a copy of old Vespa and the 1950s Enfield Bullet is still selling. Some details can go to low end market- better battery option, better tires, better lights as price comes down to the old pattern price. Older Honda pushrod engines out of trademark and patent protection-and the Chinese and Indians, Indonesians are using that 'old' technology to make a low buck usable engine for various applications- quality control varies- but even the worst are improving just to sell in varied markets. Laws vary- we've seen the post from UK about the limits on engine and power size the first time riders have to go through, the US has some graduated license laws coming in various states- California with its under 150cc limit for beginners as example. Fuels vary- the diesel cycle will show up some places, the CNG/LP in a few others like India Mumbai now will spread to some other dirty cities over time. Economics factors- the Honda Cubs or derivatives running around many markets- some the 'emerging' markets like Africa, others like the large cities where the small scooter or cycle is step up from pedal bicycles but affordable to some unlike a car that requires a license to purchase,park or a owned/leased parking space like some Japanese cities and Singapore- there the students and workers who don't take a bus or cab will be on the little Cubs- some times with sidecars. The 3 wheel Samlors will be a type to watch- the legal status of 'motorcycle' lets them get away with lack of expensive car required safety features like airbags and safety bumpers- but still haul 1/2 ton of cargo or 2,3,5 people as some of the 3 wheeled Asian taxis do. A solar powered Samlor with a top of solar panels, high capacity batteries-or a low cost lead acid battery pack option for lower income market-, regenerative braking and 50cc engine extra assist drive- but 1/2 the weight of expensive Prius- would be logical in India, Singapore, New York City. your 90 hp electric cycle at 200 pounds might be in distant future- but a 25 hp 'hybred' samlor capable of maintaining a minimum 45 mph might be in next ten years- the start is running around Asia now doing 15 to 25 mph as LP gas 'tuck-Tuck' with a small battery pack for the areas where it has to shut off engine and use electric motor and as a straight electric with quick change battery packs- sort of like English Post office delivery vehicles 10-20 years back in the London and other town areas and the Ford commercial electric lorries. a 700 dollar electric bicycle is available in couple markets- top speed of 15mph, 20 mile range on battery and 40 miles on economy pedal power with electric boost at start, batter recharge at braking- and the front of frame has enough room for a 50cc engine and generator with a extra chain to pedal front sprocket- Harbor Freight has small generator for about $250.00 that looks like it might fit, they have a 79cc/3hp engine for $89.00 and the 6.5hp 212cc engine goes for $99.00 on special sales at times- so next year could maybe have a $1000.00 hybred moped available at Wallmart.. 5 years later a 125cc equivalent, 10 years later a 350/500 cc variation capable of highway travel cross country. OR economy collapses and Harley brings back the WL in partnership with Briggs and Stratton. We can both dream- but I think I need some coffee..

what is the fastest electric pocket bike?

Sohan

i have a razor mx500 and i am planning to buy a new motorcycle. i was wondering is there an electric pocket bike that goes over 30 mph or at least one that goes more than 20 mph. thanks

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Just buy a real bike

Fastest Electric Pocket Bike?

Lawl

Does anybody know where i can find an electric pocket bike that goes at least 25 mph that is under $350?

Answer
see if the bikes

http://urbanscooters.com/cgi-bin/urbanscooters/electric-scooters.html

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