PETER P
Considering purchasing an electric bike kit. My main objective is it must be inconspicuous(I don't think their legal in NY?) and be able to tackle a 3mile hill on a 10mile trip to where I could recharge it. I think the kit less conspisious with the battery pack consealed in a back pack over the rear fender or saddle bags?
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Personally I don't care much for motorised bicycles unless dealing with disabilities. A fit rider can usually ride about as quickly and for longer distances.
A kit is usually a better option since the motor can be removed with reasonable ease. And you can still ride the bike with it off. There are many different types of kits. Friction drives. Hub motors and one's that utilise the drive chain.
The friction drives tend to wear out your tyres quickly. The hub motors are a bit expensive and do not run efficiently at all speeds. The drive chain type are quite efficient and work through your gears so are more flexible. These ones are claimed to be greater than 95% efficient.
http://www.cyclone-usa.com/
I know of similar designs but I don't think they are available in the U.S.
Still they are better than a car.
Bicycle and Pedestrian laws in the State of New York
MOTORIZED BICYCLES
Section 2268. Motor-assisted vehicle. Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, a vehicle which is primarily designed to be propelled by human power shall not be entitled to registration as a limited use vehicle because of the addition of a motor. The commissioner shall determine whether any vehicle is primarily designed to be propelled by human power.
http://www.oginski-law.com/library/bicycle-and-pedestria.cfm
The commissioners discretion. Here is a proposed bill that seems to outline the guidelines .You would have to be unlucky to get booked if you follow these.
??????NOT PASSED YET ??????
Section 1 of the bill adds a new Section 102-c to the vehicle and traffic law, defining electric assisted bicycles as:
A bicycle with two or three wheels which has a saddle and fully operative pedals for human propulsion, and also has an electric motor.
However, the electric motor should not have a power output of more than one thousand watts, and should be incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than twenty miles per hour on level ground. The electric motor should also be incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at or more than twenty miles per hour.
Section 2 adds an exception in section 125 of the vehicle and traffic law to the statutory definition of motor vehicle for electric assisted bicycles.
Section 3 adds a new section 1240 to the vehicle and traffic law, making the rules, regulations and provisions of the vehicle and traffic law applicable to bicycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; makes the federal equipment and manufacturing requirements for bicycles or motor driven cycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; and adds the following operational and safety requirements for electric assisted bicycles: electric motor disengagement criteria; all operators and passengers are required to wear bicycle helmets; and no-one under the age of 16 may operate or as a passenger on an electric assisted bicycle and establishes the civil fine and enforcement procedures for failure to wear a helmet.
Section 4 is the effective date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#New_York
How about deleting the other four times you asked this question?
Personally I don't care much for motorised bicycles unless dealing with disabilities. A fit rider can usually ride about as quickly and for longer distances.
A kit is usually a better option since the motor can be removed with reasonable ease. And you can still ride the bike with it off. There are many different types of kits. Friction drives. Hub motors and one's that utilise the drive chain.
The friction drives tend to wear out your tyres quickly. The hub motors are a bit expensive and do not run efficiently at all speeds. The drive chain type are quite efficient and work through your gears so are more flexible. These ones are claimed to be greater than 95% efficient.
http://www.cyclone-usa.com/
I know of similar designs but I don't think they are available in the U.S.
Still they are better than a car.
Bicycle and Pedestrian laws in the State of New York
MOTORIZED BICYCLES
Section 2268. Motor-assisted vehicle. Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, a vehicle which is primarily designed to be propelled by human power shall not be entitled to registration as a limited use vehicle because of the addition of a motor. The commissioner shall determine whether any vehicle is primarily designed to be propelled by human power.
http://www.oginski-law.com/library/bicycle-and-pedestria.cfm
The commissioners discretion. Here is a proposed bill that seems to outline the guidelines .You would have to be unlucky to get booked if you follow these.
??????NOT PASSED YET ??????
Section 1 of the bill adds a new Section 102-c to the vehicle and traffic law, defining electric assisted bicycles as:
A bicycle with two or three wheels which has a saddle and fully operative pedals for human propulsion, and also has an electric motor.
However, the electric motor should not have a power output of more than one thousand watts, and should be incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than twenty miles per hour on level ground. The electric motor should also be incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at or more than twenty miles per hour.
Section 2 adds an exception in section 125 of the vehicle and traffic law to the statutory definition of motor vehicle for electric assisted bicycles.
Section 3 adds a new section 1240 to the vehicle and traffic law, making the rules, regulations and provisions of the vehicle and traffic law applicable to bicycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; makes the federal equipment and manufacturing requirements for bicycles or motor driven cycles applicable to electric assisted bicycles; and adds the following operational and safety requirements for electric assisted bicycles: electric motor disengagement criteria; all operators and passengers are required to wear bicycle helmets; and no-one under the age of 16 may operate or as a passenger on an electric assisted bicycle and establishes the civil fine and enforcement procedures for failure to wear a helmet.
Section 4 is the effective date.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws#New_York
How about deleting the other four times you asked this question?
Electric bicycle motor kit?
This is Da
So since I bought this completely crappy bike that sort of broke as far as the gears go, I was thinking it'd be fun to put an electric motor on it. I can't find many though, and when I find a kit it's like $2000. Are there any decent conversion kits so it's like a moped or something for a decent price?
Answer
Even if you find an electric motor kit at a better price, it is unlikely to be cheap. But the problem with your cheap bike will remain. The bike will be just as difficult to push along for the electric motor as it is for you. Adding the weight of the electric motor kit to an already heavy bike is going to make for an inefficient combination that probably won't have very much range, and when the battery runs down you are still going to have to be able to pedal, so the gears will have to be repaired. If you want an electric bike, buy one, trying to convert a clunker is probably a waste of money.
Even if you find an electric motor kit at a better price, it is unlikely to be cheap. But the problem with your cheap bike will remain. The bike will be just as difficult to push along for the electric motor as it is for you. Adding the weight of the electric motor kit to an already heavy bike is going to make for an inefficient combination that probably won't have very much range, and when the battery runs down you are still going to have to be able to pedal, so the gears will have to be repaired. If you want an electric bike, buy one, trying to convert a clunker is probably a waste of money.
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