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what are the pros and cons between them? Thanks!
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Well done, excellent classic choices.
BUT either will require re-engineering, consider if U are up to it. They will have had numerous previous botching owners, think in terms of a full strip and re-build.
The Norton mark IIA 'bendy' (as you had it in the US) 850cc nominal was the best of the bunch, pre the electric non working start (so, much lighter), the Trumpet '69 pre oil in frame was also the best of the crop, the single carb Trophy was the bees knees and actually went round corners (pre '65's didn't).
Both will kill you if the chassis isn't 100%, both will frustrate you if you don't love 'em.
Spares? You can build both from every nut bolt and washer now from stock, at a price, Norman Hyde (Triumph including racing parts) and Fair Spares or Norvil, all in the UK have every part - websites give details, downloadable parts lists etc. You can actually build either (for $$$$$) from scratch, using retail spares off the shelf. You can buy a new Norton from Fair Spares with modern materials for around $15000 plus shipping. I personally would sooner have Kenny Dyer's prototype and sort it........
I donated a Mk IIA to a chum (as I hate him, three years on he is still trying to re-assemle it) Friend of mine had a '68 TR6 (late relative of the Trophy) and it is worth a lot now, prettiest bike I ever saw, but required experienced blueprinting with modern spares to make it right. Here in UK it is $8000 in 'as seen' condition.
With these bikes, everything depends on previous owner's attitude. Join the owners' clubs, talk to the guys who run them, buy from within the club. Don't forget they are lawn-mower technology stretched to record breaking levels by a dying industry
If the bike is say $ 5000 for a cranky 'going concern', reckon on another at least $6000 for rebuilding it, but it is as stated, entirely possible mail order - everything for both models is now off the shelf, more so than when they were made even, at a price. Forget your man-hours - three winters at least!
Hope you do it, though, another piece of history resurrected.
The Norton is the most comfy long distance, the Trumpet the most style; the rest is up to you.
PS having ridden the Norton in a state of calamity, and having seen the Trumpet in immaculate Dream Machine paint, I would choose the Trumpet as a toy and the Norton to cross continents on, bad as she was, we made a European tour on her, albeit, only just. Be realistic buddy.
Well done, excellent classic choices.
BUT either will require re-engineering, consider if U are up to it. They will have had numerous previous botching owners, think in terms of a full strip and re-build.
The Norton mark IIA 'bendy' (as you had it in the US) 850cc nominal was the best of the bunch, pre the electric non working start (so, much lighter), the Trumpet '69 pre oil in frame was also the best of the crop, the single carb Trophy was the bees knees and actually went round corners (pre '65's didn't).
Both will kill you if the chassis isn't 100%, both will frustrate you if you don't love 'em.
Spares? You can build both from every nut bolt and washer now from stock, at a price, Norman Hyde (Triumph including racing parts) and Fair Spares or Norvil, all in the UK have every part - websites give details, downloadable parts lists etc. You can actually build either (for $$$$$) from scratch, using retail spares off the shelf. You can buy a new Norton from Fair Spares with modern materials for around $15000 plus shipping. I personally would sooner have Kenny Dyer's prototype and sort it........
I donated a Mk IIA to a chum (as I hate him, three years on he is still trying to re-assemle it) Friend of mine had a '68 TR6 (late relative of the Trophy) and it is worth a lot now, prettiest bike I ever saw, but required experienced blueprinting with modern spares to make it right. Here in UK it is $8000 in 'as seen' condition.
With these bikes, everything depends on previous owner's attitude. Join the owners' clubs, talk to the guys who run them, buy from within the club. Don't forget they are lawn-mower technology stretched to record breaking levels by a dying industry
If the bike is say $ 5000 for a cranky 'going concern', reckon on another at least $6000 for rebuilding it, but it is as stated, entirely possible mail order - everything for both models is now off the shelf, more so than when they were made even, at a price. Forget your man-hours - three winters at least!
Hope you do it, though, another piece of history resurrected.
The Norton is the most comfy long distance, the Trumpet the most style; the rest is up to you.
PS having ridden the Norton in a state of calamity, and having seen the Trumpet in immaculate Dream Machine paint, I would choose the Trumpet as a toy and the Norton to cross continents on, bad as she was, we made a European tour on her, albeit, only just. Be realistic buddy.
What are some effective but easy ways people can save energy?
ksenia
Answer
Monitor your electricity use by buying a Kill-A-Watt or other such monitor.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_watt_electric_usage_monitor_review
'An average household uses about 4300kWh of electricity each year. This results in emissions of over 2 tonnes of CO2 per household, or ¾ tonne per person - just for domestic electricity supply. In comparison, total CO2 emissions per person in the UK are around 10 tonnes, and emissions per person in India are about 1 tonne. Luckily, it is possible to cut domestic electricity use in half with simple energy efficiency measures.
'This table shows how electricity use is divided up in an average house (excluding electric heating):
Lighting 19%
Cold Appliances 18%
Wet Appliancs 15%
Cooking 15%
Consumer Electronics 19%
ICT (computers, etc) 9%
Other 5%'
(source Centre for Alternative Technology)
http://www.cat.org.uk/information/catinfo.tmpl?command=search&db=catinfo.db&eqSKUdatarq=InfoSheet_SavingElectricity
EASY WAYS to save energy
â Don't use standby on tv or computer.
â Switch off when not in use.
â Use energy efficient lightbulbs.
â Lower you thermostat.
â Install timers.
â Heat only what is needed.
â Turn down the water heater.
â Insulate your property.
â Turn air conditioning and heating down
â Sign up to a green energy supplier.
â Dress appropriately. When itâs cold put on a jumper rather than turn up the heating, when itâs warm take it off again rather than use the air con.
â Wash full loads.
â Wash at lower temperatures.
â Dry washing outside.
â Avoid dishwashers.
â Reduce draughts.
Use rechargeable batteries..
â Donât leave (re)chargers on for longer than is needed
â Only boil the water you need.
â Buy local produce.
â Reduce reuse and recycle - in that order
â Work from home. If possible work from home, it saves time and fuel travelling.
â Eat less meat and dairy products. Modern farming methods produce large quantities of greenhouse gases.
â Shower instead of bath.
â Conserve Water The less water you use the less energy is needed to pump it to your home or office and to deal with the waste at a sewerage treatment works.
â Drive a fuel efficient vehicle, if you have more than one vehicle use the most economical one more often.
â Walk or cycle to work or when taking the kids to schools, if you have to drive consider car sharing.
â Use public transport where possible
â Take a coach or train instead of using domestic flights.
â When replacing your vehicle look at diesel and liquid petroleum gas models.
â Combine multiple journeys into one and do your weekly shopping in a single trip.
â Stagger journeys where possible to avoid rush hour traffic and hold ups.
â Avoid harsh braking, accelerate gently, drive at a steady speed.
â Keep tyres properly inflated.
â Remove bike and ski and roof racks when not in use.
â Carrying unnecessary weight wastes fuel, declutter your vehicle.
â Use the correct gear, use cruise control if your vehicle has it.
â Keep your vehicle regularly serviced.
â Turn the engine off when stopped or waiting.
Source Trevor a climatologist , who used to be Top Answerer in Global Warming.
Monitor your electricity use by buying a Kill-A-Watt or other such monitor.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_watt_electric_usage_monitor_review
'An average household uses about 4300kWh of electricity each year. This results in emissions of over 2 tonnes of CO2 per household, or ¾ tonne per person - just for domestic electricity supply. In comparison, total CO2 emissions per person in the UK are around 10 tonnes, and emissions per person in India are about 1 tonne. Luckily, it is possible to cut domestic electricity use in half with simple energy efficiency measures.
'This table shows how electricity use is divided up in an average house (excluding electric heating):
Lighting 19%
Cold Appliances 18%
Wet Appliancs 15%
Cooking 15%
Consumer Electronics 19%
ICT (computers, etc) 9%
Other 5%'
(source Centre for Alternative Technology)
http://www.cat.org.uk/information/catinfo.tmpl?command=search&db=catinfo.db&eqSKUdatarq=InfoSheet_SavingElectricity
EASY WAYS to save energy
â Don't use standby on tv or computer.
â Switch off when not in use.
â Use energy efficient lightbulbs.
â Lower you thermostat.
â Install timers.
â Heat only what is needed.
â Turn down the water heater.
â Insulate your property.
â Turn air conditioning and heating down
â Sign up to a green energy supplier.
â Dress appropriately. When itâs cold put on a jumper rather than turn up the heating, when itâs warm take it off again rather than use the air con.
â Wash full loads.
â Wash at lower temperatures.
â Dry washing outside.
â Avoid dishwashers.
â Reduce draughts.
Use rechargeable batteries..
â Donât leave (re)chargers on for longer than is needed
â Only boil the water you need.
â Buy local produce.
â Reduce reuse and recycle - in that order
â Work from home. If possible work from home, it saves time and fuel travelling.
â Eat less meat and dairy products. Modern farming methods produce large quantities of greenhouse gases.
â Shower instead of bath.
â Conserve Water The less water you use the less energy is needed to pump it to your home or office and to deal with the waste at a sewerage treatment works.
â Drive a fuel efficient vehicle, if you have more than one vehicle use the most economical one more often.
â Walk or cycle to work or when taking the kids to schools, if you have to drive consider car sharing.
â Use public transport where possible
â Take a coach or train instead of using domestic flights.
â When replacing your vehicle look at diesel and liquid petroleum gas models.
â Combine multiple journeys into one and do your weekly shopping in a single trip.
â Stagger journeys where possible to avoid rush hour traffic and hold ups.
â Avoid harsh braking, accelerate gently, drive at a steady speed.
â Keep tyres properly inflated.
â Remove bike and ski and roof racks when not in use.
â Carrying unnecessary weight wastes fuel, declutter your vehicle.
â Use the correct gear, use cruise control if your vehicle has it.
â Keep your vehicle regularly serviced.
â Turn the engine off when stopped or waiting.
Source Trevor a climatologist , who used to be Top Answerer in Global Warming.
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