Market size and growth scooters, electric scooters and E-bikes?

Paul L

Hi, I am desperate for help on this, I have spent many, many hours I cannot spare and am all searched out, I am desperate to find market details for unit sales (totals and growth rates) for Europe, China and Taiwan for gas powered scooters, electric scooters and e-bikes, also need USA figures for dirt bikes, I am trying to plug these figures into a very small part of my thesis and it sure seems no one will give this basic information unless I pay 3 grand or so to a market research company, it cannot be as hard as I am finding surely. I also need the details for reference on where the numbers came from.

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Best regards

Answer
you have two sources:
1- in the USA, check out the dirt bike magazines, they usually have the kind of info you are looking for
2- Out of the US, you have to call the marketing and sales departments for each manufacturer and ask your questions. Some of them post their numbers of their web sites
good luck

Who is the BEST Electric Bike Supplier?

We are a professional Bike Shop with locations in California, New York, total: 13 chain stores and partners. We require e-bikes Electric Bikes, both Mountain and City E-bike versions with both 24V 10Ah or 36V 10Ah Li-ion battery packs Only, they also must feature a locking device, and the electric bikes must also be high quality products, must be a professional supplier for replacement parts as-well.
We require the best specifications higher mileage electric bikes at least 45km on pure electric mode and 65km pedaling assist mode.
then what currently is being sold in the market.

Please do not contact us with your Wal-Mart quality products, we want high quality goods only please. We seek Shimano parts, Aluminum alloy parts also.

thank you

Answer
I would suggest MR CANADA IMPORTS - www.mrcanadaimports.com, they are a distributor and wholesaler of brand name model electric e-bikes, Mountain Electric Cycle, Folding Electric Bike, and city e-bike versions, including a popular model for use is the stb-mountain bike "Series E03, E01, F02 older clients" < very good seller for us.

No matter if your located in USA or CANADA or UK, i would contact these guys, these models are unlike regular store brand electric bikes, as you will see when you see them, they feature 36V 10Ah Li-ion battery as you requested and much more.. The Emode time is the best on the market, highest electric mileage then any other model currently sold.

These have helped our sales for this coming season since we have sold-out
all our first stock via pre-orders. If i was you i would order some samples now, display in your store and base your orders on the demand of that model.

good luck on your ventures..
you might want to provide free replacement tires with each purchase to obtain those sales, this is what we offer with the puncture resistant K-shield tires in 3 of our stores, and the response has been very good :)
the wait time including delivery for us was an average of 45 days for 460 units.

contact: Jon Steveson, jon.steveson@mrcanadaimportsDOTcom

if you require good service, these are the guys to contact, and come Christmas you'll really enjoy their services and free gifts :) please tell jon, you spoke with me about their products, and your a close business partner of mine. He will do the rest. good luck again, RIDE HARD!!! WELL NOT REALLY ITS ELECTRIC! lol

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Electric motors?

BlackOpSou

Hello.

I want to build an electric motorcycle by modifying a road bike to use a pair of deep-cycle automotive batteries, or perhaps capacitors or something else entirely. This vehicle is to be built on the cheap, but I want it to have high (40-60 mph top speed) performance, fair acceleration, and good range. I intend to accomplish the latter by regenerative braking, which as I understand it, would be fairly easy to do by reversing the polarity (maybe not the right word) of a DC motor through switches.

Questions-
-Where can I find such a motor? Can I pull one out of junked appliances? If so, which ones?
-What's the best way to store power? If I do use two batteries, should they be in series or parallel? What about capacitors?
-What's the best way to regulate power draw?
-How can I be most efficient with the power I gain by regenerative braking?

If possible, please provide links, or, preferably, a circuit diagram. I'm not really happy with the diagram I made.

~BlackOpSourcee

Answer
I'll tell you what, I built an electric bike with a Rigid powerdrill, the motors are pretty strong, more torque than anything else on the market (powerdrill wise), and so long as you don't lug them below 1/2 max RPM for too long (pick your gear ratios wisely) they hold up well.

Any idea about R Martin Electric Bikes?

nitima_soo

I am planning to buy an electric vehicle; can you name any good suppliers in Austin, Texas area? I have heard much about R Martin Electric bikes, any idea how is it?
www.rmartinbikes.com

Answer
I'll look at the website. I've never heard of them. I have a Giant Lite electric bike that I like but like so many electric bikes, I think they stopped marketing them in the US. They are the most popular bike in Japan. Very dependable.

(Later) OK, I see that R Martin is the distributor, not the manufacturer. The bikes they have seem to be OK because their drive systems are connected through the bike's crankshaft rather than attached through a separate chain drive to the rear wheel. You need to decide if you want pedal assist which does not have a throttle and does not go unless you pedal, or whether you want one with a throttle, which you don't necessarily have to pedal.

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Electric motors?

BlackOpSou

Hello.

I want to build an electric motorcycle by modifying a road bike to use a pair of deep-cycle automotive batteries, or perhaps capacitors or something else entirely. This vehicle is to be built on the cheap, but I want it to have high (40-60 mph top speed) performance, fair acceleration, and good range. I intend to accomplish the latter by regenerative braking, which as I understand it, would be fairly easy to do by reversing the polarity (maybe not the right word) of a DC motor through switches.

Questions-
-Where can I find such a motor? Can I pull one out of junked appliances? If so, which ones?
-What's the best way to store power? If I do use two batteries, should they be in series or parallel? What about capacitors?
-What's the best way to regulate power draw?
-How can I be most efficient with the power I gain by regenerative braking?

If possible, please provide links, or, preferably, a circuit diagram. I'm not really happy with the diagram I made.

~BlackOpSourcee

Answer
I'll tell you what, I built an electric bike with a Rigid powerdrill, the motors are pretty strong, more torque than anything else on the market (powerdrill wise), and so long as you don't lug them below 1/2 max RPM for too long (pick your gear ratios wisely) they hold up well.

Any idea about R Martin Electric Bikes?

nitima_soo

I am planning to buy an electric vehicle; can you name any good suppliers in Austin, Texas area? I have heard much about R Martin Electric bikes, any idea how is it?
www.rmartinbikes.com

Answer
I'll look at the website. I've never heard of them. I have a Giant Lite electric bike that I like but like so many electric bikes, I think they stopped marketing them in the US. They are the most popular bike in Japan. Very dependable.

(Later) OK, I see that R Martin is the distributor, not the manufacturer. The bikes they have seem to be OK because their drive systems are connected through the bike's crankshaft rather than attached through a separate chain drive to the rear wheel. You need to decide if you want pedal assist which does not have a throttle and does not go unless you pedal, or whether you want one with a throttle, which you don't necessarily have to pedal.

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Who is the BEST Electric Bike Supplier?

We are a professional Bike Shop with locations in California, New York, total: 13 chain stores and partners. We require e-bikes Electric Bikes, both Mountain and City E-bike versions with both 24V 10Ah or 36V 10Ah Li-ion battery packs Only, they also must feature a locking device, and the electric bikes must also be high quality products, must be a professional supplier for replacement parts as-well.
We require the best specifications higher mileage electric bikes at least 45km on pure electric mode and 65km pedaling assist mode.
then what currently is being sold in the market.

Please do not contact us with your Wal-Mart quality products, we want high quality goods only please. We seek Shimano parts, Aluminum alloy parts also.

thank you

Answer
I would suggest MR CANADA IMPORTS - www.mrcanadaimports.com, they are a distributor and wholesaler of brand name model electric e-bikes, Mountain Electric Cycle, Folding Electric Bike, and city e-bike versions, including a popular model for use is the stb-mountain bike "Series E03, E01, F02 older clients" < very good seller for us.

No matter if your located in USA or CANADA or UK, i would contact these guys, these models are unlike regular store brand electric bikes, as you will see when you see them, they feature 36V 10Ah Li-ion battery as you requested and much more.. The Emode time is the best on the market, highest electric mileage then any other model currently sold.

These have helped our sales for this coming season since we have sold-out
all our first stock via pre-orders. If i was you i would order some samples now, display in your store and base your orders on the demand of that model.

good luck on your ventures..
you might want to provide free replacement tires with each purchase to obtain those sales, this is what we offer with the puncture resistant K-shield tires in 3 of our stores, and the response has been very good :)
the wait time including delivery for us was an average of 45 days for 460 units.

contact: Jon Steveson, jon.steveson@mrcanadaimportsDOTcom

if you require good service, these are the guys to contact, and come Christmas you'll really enjoy their services and free gifts :) please tell jon, you spoke with me about their products, and your a close business partner of mine. He will do the rest. good luck again, RIDE HARD!!! WELL NOT REALLY ITS ELECTRIC! lol

Are there any loop-charged rollerblades on the market?

If you've heard about loop-charged bicycles, you get the idea.

Answer
Several issues:

Loop charging on bicycles is really a marketing fraud. It is really just regenerative braking with a fancy name and the false promise that it is actually useful for recharging your battery. http://www.nycewheels.com/self-charging-electric-bike.html To charge while riding normally is really hard because you are propelling the bike and cranking the generator. To charge while going downhill is a 10 to 1 proposition. To extend your range by a mile, you have to go downhill 10 miles.

There are no commercially made electric inline skates (Rollerblade is a brand not an item, you mentioned bicycles not Schwinns). I have seen a number of well intentioned but not knowledgeable people posting about how they WERE GOING TO create electric skates using off the shelf components. It just isn't going to happen, the power needed vs the weight of them just doesn't work. I have seen an article (wish I would have saved the link) by and electrical engineering professor that did use some parts of available items plus some custom made parts to create wheel motors for skates and had some reasonably useful electric skates.

Again, once you have electric skates, you then need to make a controller (the brains of ALL electric vehicles) that can additionally do regenerative braking to put energy back into the battery when it knows that you are braking. Somehow you have to tell it that you are braking. On a bike or car that is easy because you have a control that you use to tell the vehicle that you are braking. On skates, you would need to do something like a cuff activated brake like the Rollerblade ABT brakes rather than a standard heel brake. In addition to the mechanical linkage to the heel brake, the cuff would need to activate a switch to tell the controller to start regenerative braking.

Regenerative braking works well in a car because of the relatively sudden stops. Riding a bike is equivalent to hypermiling in a car where you look ahead and never get up to full speed if you know you will be stopping soon and try to avoid using the brake since it wastes energy (even in the "loop" bikes) that you created by peddling.

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Any idea about R Martin Electric Bikes?

nitima_soo

I am planning to buy an electric vehicle; can you name any good suppliers in Austin, Texas area? I have heard much about R Martin Electric bikes, any idea how is it?
www.rmartinbikes.com

Answer
I'll look at the website. I've never heard of them. I have a Giant Lite electric bike that I like but like so many electric bikes, I think they stopped marketing them in the US. They are the most popular bike in Japan. Very dependable.

(Later) OK, I see that R Martin is the distributor, not the manufacturer. The bikes they have seem to be OK because their drive systems are connected through the bike's crankshaft rather than attached through a separate chain drive to the rear wheel. You need to decide if you want pedal assist which does not have a throttle and does not go unless you pedal, or whether you want one with a throttle, which you don't necessarily have to pedal.

Market size and growth scooters, electric scooters and E-bikes?

Paul L

Hi, I am desperate for help on this, I have spent many, many hours I cannot spare and am all searched out, I am desperate to find market details for unit sales (totals and growth rates) for Europe, China and Taiwan for gas powered scooters, electric scooters and e-bikes, also need USA figures for dirt bikes, I am trying to plug these figures into a very small part of my thesis and it sure seems no one will give this basic information unless I pay 3 grand or so to a market research company, it cannot be as hard as I am finding surely. I also need the details for reference on where the numbers came from.

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Best regards

Answer
you have two sources:
1- in the USA, check out the dirt bike magazines, they usually have the kind of info you are looking for
2- Out of the US, you have to call the marketing and sales departments for each manufacturer and ask your questions. Some of them post their numbers of their web sites
good luck

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Electric Bike?

Q. Hey I'm going to be moving a ways away from my kung fu school. So I will have to bike there but we are talking like 30 miles away at least. So my question is if anyone knows what that bike adapter kit is where it lets you switch between pedaling and driving?

Answer
there are allot of electric bikes and kits out there, but the problem is weight, performance, and distance per charge, remember, if you use those batteries for 10-20 Miles they are bone dry, and you have to pedal with an additional 80 pounds of weight, so you think, i ll add more batteries, but then you add more weight, then you need a bigger motor, so on and so forth, to have a more efficient setup you would need lighter batteries that last longer, lithium ion, or nickle metal hybrid, but they are very pricey, and you would need allot of them.

electric biking is not yet a transportation alternative, unless your going very short distance.

but if you wait, I'm currently working on a revolutionary concept for power assisted bicycles that will be available on the market for the summer of 2007 and will give you a 250 mile autonomy, and will only add 9.2lbs.

Electric Bikes?

Q. Hi, for next christmas I was hoping to buy an electric bike.

However I dont know where I could get one from.

If you could please give me some links, advice, whats needed and costs for them I would be most greatful.

Thanks!
thanks alot...

Answer
There is no one "best" ebike for all situations, dont let anyone tell you different. There are many factors to consider, such as: the bicycle frame, your price range, your performance needs, your installation requirements, and after market service needs.

So lets take some well rated ebikes (all of which I have sold and still service) and compare them:

Giant suede-e (no longer sold, a few still available new, still have service and parts) a little low on power for big guys hauling large loads in tough terrain, BUT VERY Reliable and pretty light weight. Un modifiable. Turnkey- no installation issues and no service or parts issue. $1.1k

Cyclone Kit currrently sold on the internet and a few places across the US (Including me in Colorado) GREAT power. Can be a pain to install, so you have to have a specific bike for it to fit, and someone to help with or do the install unless you are pretty darn good with tools. good value, can make slight modifications, parts available, but not much service.

Bionx Kit, 36v more power than than Giant suede-e, lots of nifty hard to find features, Very bicycle-like for a kit, fairly pricy, easy install, parts available, some service. unmodifiable.

EZee bikes and kits, pretty reliable, good parts, some service, can be either a kit or a turnkey bike. moderate performance. a little pricey, but not a lot. minor mods.

Crystalyte. can be anything you want it to be, not real bicyle like. Lots of parts and internet service advise. reasonable price, controller less than the most reliable. You install- easier than a cyclone, harder than a bionx.

If you need the best performance for the money and you can work with tools and pick out your bike, then Cyclone might be best.

For today total turnkey, maybe an EZEE.

Really want to retain the bicyle feel & arent having extremes of demands- try Bionx.

With all ebikes, all connections are the biggest reliability issue, next are throttles then controllers unless stated above.

You will need to look at some discussion groups to get the best lowdown for your situation.

try:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/power...

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/index.p...

a few good shops:

http://www.birdrv.com/electricbike.php

http://electricvehiclesnw.com/

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Any idea about R Martin Electric Bikes?

nitima_soo

I am planning to buy an electric vehicle; can you name any good suppliers in Austin, Texas area? I have heard much about R Martin Electric bikes, any idea how is it?
www.rmartinbikes.com

Answer
I'll look at the website. I've never heard of them. I have a Giant Lite electric bike that I like but like so many electric bikes, I think they stopped marketing them in the US. They are the most popular bike in Japan. Very dependable.

(Later) OK, I see that R Martin is the distributor, not the manufacturer. The bikes they have seem to be OK because their drive systems are connected through the bike's crankshaft rather than attached through a separate chain drive to the rear wheel. You need to decide if you want pedal assist which does not have a throttle and does not go unless you pedal, or whether you want one with a throttle, which you don't necessarily have to pedal.

Market size and growth scooters, electric scooters and E-bikes?

Paul L

Hi, I am desperate for help on this, I have spent many, many hours I cannot spare and am all searched out, I am desperate to find market details for unit sales (totals and growth rates) for Europe, China and Taiwan for gas powered scooters, electric scooters and e-bikes, also need USA figures for dirt bikes, I am trying to plug these figures into a very small part of my thesis and it sure seems no one will give this basic information unless I pay 3 grand or so to a market research company, it cannot be as hard as I am finding surely. I also need the details for reference on where the numbers came from.

Any help will be very much appreciated.

Best regards

Answer
you have two sources:
1- in the USA, check out the dirt bike magazines, they usually have the kind of info you are looking for
2- Out of the US, you have to call the marketing and sales departments for each manufacturer and ask your questions. Some of them post their numbers of their web sites
good luck

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Can the pedaling energy charge the battery of an electric bike?

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Drowzzy

Can the mechanical energy of pedaling be stored as electrical energy to be utilized later to run the bicycle automatically? I'm not talking about pure electric bikes that need regular charging, and not even about those that you pedal for a while as the bike stands still and then run it on electric power. I mean can you ride a bike and store the mechanical energy simultaneously? Will it be efficient? If so, then are such e-bikes available in the market, and what are they called so that I may Google for them?

Here's the scenario: I need a bicycle for regular commute, may be even for covering long distances. It's not feasible for a layman to pedal continuously for more than 5 to 10 miles. So I'm looking for a bike that you pedal for sometime, and when you're exhausted, you simply flick a button to make it run on electrical power which has been converted and stored from the mechanical energy of pedaling the bike; and then pedal again and auto-ride again and so forth. Will something like that be technically efficient, since you're moving the bike while pedaling as well as storing your spare energy?

Hope I haven't confused you. Thanks :)

Answer
Yes but you will go slower because you are turning the motor so basically there is no piont unless you modify it yourself

where can i get one of the electric bikes from tonights amazing race?

paul b

in tonights episode of the amazing race they were in china and at one point they had to ride these electric bicycles through beijing, i googled it but all i found were inferior looking electric bikes or kits you have to build yourself, can anyone tell me more info about the bikes from tonights episode and a website where i can get one? thanks
i really just want to know about the specific chinese bikes i saw on the show, if anyone saw the show and knows about them let me know

Answer
The chinese and US ebike markets are significantly different. Our laws differ, our people are bigger and heavier than the typical Asian person, our roads are hillier

Below are sources for some of the best ebikes in North America.

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What is the difference between a "bicycle working prototype" and a "bicycle market prototype"?

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fsacuiu

For the same bicycle product/concept there are many production phases to be accomplished until a market product get alife. During these phases different prototypes are built if required.

Answer
There can be a lot of difference. A working prototype is often cobbled together by a mechanic. A market prototype is more refined , and is an element in test marketing.
I have had experience with building prototype bicycles, and I have a few photos to share:

This is Type 3, which has a fairing made of Kevlar (Dupont trademark aramid fiber) built in 1987:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/00000008-1.jpg

After testing it on people, other suggestions were taken into consideration. The next photo is of the Type 9, built in 1993, and made of fiberglass. The fairing is smaller because testing the larger fairing in Florida revealed that the riders got to hot, it blocked off air. Also, the newer fairing has a storage compartment big enough for 12 x 12ounce beverage cans. And the new design has the fairing mounted to the frame, not the handlebars, so it is much more stable. This bike cost $270.00 to build and sold (Dutch Auction) for $1,200.00.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/00000023-1.jpg

This photo is of the Type 7, which I did not sell. The fairing was designed by the same women who designed the Type 9:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/photo003.jpg

I skipped using the number eight, because , like a game of pool, I want the eightball to be last.

Since building these bikes , there has been a lot of electric bikes going into production in China, some 16 million per year. So I would like to cut my losses by bringing in bikes from China. Maybe I will continue to build my own on a one-time, custom basis, but the consumer is only concerned about cost.

I need a fast electric scooter with a long run time?

jbizzle

I want an alternative to my gear bike to get around, gas vehicles are illegal and i want a fast, electric scooter with the longest battery life on the market. Under 400$ would be great.

Answer
Razor 100 i have it it is 20 bucks!

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How to remove scratch from my bike?

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sourabh

I recently bought a Yamaha FZ-16. Lately when I checked my bike I saw that it had got a scratch for some other vehicle, probably from the foot rest of a scooter, on the silencer.I really love my bike and the scratch is irritating me. Is there a way to remove the black mark caused by the paint of the scooter's footrest paint or will the yamaha service center person can/will do anything about it or to get rid of the mark? I like my stuff, flawless. Please comment!

Answer
if it is on the alloy cover and is just a paint mark try a rag soaked in carb cleaner and gently rub the mark away.
If it is actually a scratch in the alloy
first try a light rub with a scotch pad.
You can buy lap wheels for your electric drill, get a cloth callico mop and some block french chalk and polish the whole surface.
alternately buy a new silencer cover.
Don't be too het up as in about six weeks you'll be buying an after market slip on can to make it sound better and perform a little better and improve the looks of the bike
ARROW make a nice exhaust for this bike as do blue flame

http://www.blueflameperformance.com/bikegallery/#YAMAHA/FZ1_2006_ON

http://www.arrow.it/usa/website/

how do i find out the laws on importing goods from china to the usa?

randybates

i want to buy electric bikes in china, and sell them in america

Answer
You need a customs broker. They know relevant regulations for each commodity. Chances are the only things you'll need to confirm regulation-wise are (1) whether you need to pay duties to Uncle Sam when you bring electric bikes in from China; and (2) whether electric bicycles require UL (underwriter's laboratories) approval.

For info on duties check the US International Trade Commission's Tariff Information Center at the following link:
http://www.usitc.gov/tata/hts/bychapter/2005_supp.htm
See chapter 87 "Vehicles other than railway or tramway rolling stock, and parts and accessories thereof"

Frankly if you don't know the regulations governing the importation of electric bicycles from China into the U.S., then that means you probably have no experience in this industry, and there are more important questions you should be asking, such as:
Who is your target customer and how will you get their attention?
Who are your main competitors?
Why will your target customers buy your bikes and not your competitors'?
What advantage do you have selling electronic bicycles that your competitors don't have?
How will you find suppliers?
Do you have the capital to buy bikes, ship them to the U.S., inventory them, and invest in marketing to sell them?

Keep in mind that suppliers in China only sell large quantities. Unless you are prepared to import full container loads of electric bicycles there is no point buying direct from China. You should first find a domestic wholesaler or importer to buy from, that way you can get your business started with a low capital investment. Your COGs (cost of goods) will be higher, but you won't need to tie up cash in inventory. Focus on developing your customer base and growing sales. As long as you at least break even you are doing great. Then, once you have built up a customer base and have sufficient demand, you can think about finding a supplier in China. When you're at that point give me a call and I can help you - 212-847-7175. Good luck!

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How do you think a company like Black and Decker can improve sales, with the poor housing market?

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dubstyles2

I have a project for business strategy and I need to survey people for ideas. I have several, but want to see if other people could come up with something new.

Black and Decker makes tools and fasteners, and are currently struggling since the construction market is struggling.

Answer
Well, I build Electric Bicycles, and a Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle (that my Daughter designed).
There is a market for electric motor kits, to motorize bicycles.
Think:
Black & Decker is well known for quality electric motors, maybe they should build an electric bike with the B&D name brand on it.?

What is the difference between a "bicycle working prototype" and a "bicycle market prototype"?

fsacuiu

For the same bicycle product/concept there are many production phases to be accomplished until a market product get alife. During these phases different prototypes are built if required.

Answer
There can be a lot of difference. A working prototype is often cobbled together by a mechanic. A market prototype is more refined , and is an element in test marketing.
I have had experience with building prototype bicycles, and I have a few photos to share:

This is Type 3, which has a fairing made of Kevlar (Dupont trademark aramid fiber) built in 1987:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/00000008-1.jpg

After testing it on people, other suggestions were taken into consideration. The next photo is of the Type 9, built in 1993, and made of fiberglass. The fairing is smaller because testing the larger fairing in Florida revealed that the riders got to hot, it blocked off air. Also, the newer fairing has a storage compartment big enough for 12 x 12ounce beverage cans. And the new design has the fairing mounted to the frame, not the handlebars, so it is much more stable. This bike cost $270.00 to build and sold (Dutch Auction) for $1,200.00.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/00000023-1.jpg

This photo is of the Type 7, which I did not sell. The fairing was designed by the same women who designed the Type 9:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/photo003.jpg

I skipped using the number eight, because , like a game of pool, I want the eightball to be last.

Since building these bikes , there has been a lot of electric bikes going into production in China, some 16 million per year. So I would like to cut my losses by bringing in bikes from China. Maybe I will continue to build my own on a one-time, custom basis, but the consumer is only concerned about cost.

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